ToT: Training Dummy Parse Thread

by **Anunnaki** » 30 Apr 2016, 18:43

First baseline with being able to wear two relics, with the new heartbound fervor mechanic, and the changed sig rings (and really, only the Conjuror has the sig ring.) No GU100 gear equipped yet.

AEx8
(05:06) training dummy: 879979255 Conjuror-Soulburn-256,438,827
Conjuror | 441434517
Warlock | 247871273
Illy | 80271269
Pally | 49423264
Troub | 43404656
Defiler | 17574276

STx1
(05:03) training dummy: 304438254 Conjuror-Unda Arcanus Spiritus-295,422,365
Conjuror | 151067097
Warlock | 75734994
Illy | 32681264
Troub | 21946304
Pally| 15346351
Defiler | 7662243

I can pretty easily optimize the Conjuror for AE, but for ST its more difficult because of the way the some CA's are classified in Ogre. I'm not really going to complain about it because it works, but it could be higher.

EDIT: I went and did the sig quest. It was awful. Updated numbers w/ sig rings and no GU100 gear.

AEx8
(05:08) training dummy: 1150787195 Conjuror-Soulburn-463,465,885
Conjuror | 504707543
Warlock | 363339260
Illy | 126834120
Pally | 70523036
Troub | 58681247
Defiler | 26701989

STx1
(05:03) training dummy: 390034282 Conjuror-Soulburn-249,825,832
Conjuror | 165010320
Warlock | 111266743
Illy | 51144710
Troub | 28198910
Pally | 22620367
Defiler | 11793232

by **Eyedea** » 24 May 2016, 06:20

by **Quigly4000** » 02 Aug 2016, 08:35

Been slowly working on gearing a ranger since I'd like to be able to compare with beastlord. Not going to have ethereals on the ranger though so probably pointless to bother.

Would like to see other parses from t1 dps classes that include a stat breakdown so it's easier to compare. If there is another relevant stat I didn't include that you think is important lemme know.

Anyway, here is a breakdown of how my guys are geared in group out of combat WITH 30 min heartbound buff. BL/Brig have ravaging/reset runes, dirge has ravaging, illy has reset
Beastlord - 6384 pot, 1561 cb, 46 fervor, 67,700 abi mod
Brigand - 6379 pot, 1629 cb, 43 fervor, 81.8k abi mod
Illy - 7530 pot, 2298 cb, 39 fervor, 117.5k abi mod
Dirge - 5882 pot, 1526 cb, fervor 40, 59.5k abi mod
SK - 5490 pot, 1381 cb, 38 fervor, 63k abi mod
Defiler - 8280 pot, 1744 cb, 38 fervor, 90.4k abi mod

TD x 1
(05:49) training dummy: 594820576
Beastlord | 188507226
Brigand | 143068512
Illy | 137454306
Dirge | 53375240
SK | 45426297
Defiler | 26988995

TD x 8
(04:24) training dummy: 1363641256
Beastlord | 327482829
Brigand | 322501861
Illy | 280915947
SK | 211083179
Dirge | 151990398
Defiler | 69667043

by **Eyedea** » 07 Aug 2016, 10:54

by **Kannkor** » 02 Sep 2016, 04:12

I got done not getting any ethereal runes from this event, so thought I would buy all mine. So here is a before/after equipping them.

Group make up:
Guardian, Dirge, Swashbuckler, Coercer, Defiler, Templar. (MT group, max max defensive).
Troubador, Brigand, Illy, Warlock, Fury, Mystic.

I've noted if anyone has an ethereal (AoM old weapon). Since that is likely worth while to note as it won't change things much when I switch it to a rune.
Warlock - Hammer + Ethereal Ranged (reset)
Defiler - Ethereal primary (reset)

Well.. that was a short list.

TDx1:
(05:29) training dummy: 1660006669 Warlock-Plaguebringer-1,111,980,305
Warlock | 556819544
Illy | 280458202
Swash | 222460723
Brigand | 164001931
Coercer | 125569398
Troubador | 66854768
Guardian | 58158534
Dirge | 52763340
Fury | 43408497
Mystic | 40811549
Defiler | 25520769
Templar | 23179413

TDx8:
(05:30) Before-TDx8: 3892101749 Warlock-Rift-1,090,029,411
Warlock | 1517965689
Swash | 870457207
Illy | 371433428
Brigand | 295178653
Coe | 225381433
Guard | 127348995
Troubador | 117063052
Dirge | 101339922
Mystic | 100740601
Fury | 88097018
Templar | 38738634
Defiler | 38357118

I now have the following ethereal RUNES (got rid of any ethereal weapons).
Guardian - Primary (Fervor)
Dirge - Primary (reset), Ranged (Fervor)
Swashbuckler - Primary (reset), Ranged (Fervor)
Coercer - Ranged (reset)
Defiler - Primary (reset)
Templar - Primary (reset)

Troubador - Primary (reset), Ranged (Fervor)
Brigand - Primary (reset), Ranged (Fervor)
Warlock - Hammer + Ranged (reset)
Illuisionist - Ranged (reset)
Fury - Primary (reset)
Mystic - Primary (reset)

Keep in mind, I did 0 other changes between these parses. Because of all the resetting, I'll need to tweak my cast stacks, specifically the priests.. but I wanted to do two decent comparison tests first.

TDx1:
(05:31) After-TDx1: 1651479981 Warlock-Ethernere Chains-682,424,872
Warlock | 504201521
Illy | 267187087
Swashbuckler | 255726100
Brigand | 200379414
Coercer | 103436729
Troubador | 77219027
Guardian | 61315721
Dirge | 53238085
Fury | 44756842
Mystic | 41531180
Defiler | 23311191
Templar | 19177084

TDx8:
(05:32) After-TDx8: 4164519661 Warlock-Rift-620,966,202
Warlock | 1508198658
Swash | 1054485779
Brig | 388350056
illy | 355946563
Coe | 205186749
Guardian | 140876963
Troubador | 133666097
Dirge | 112058534
Mystic | 98933302
Fury | 89835558
Templar | 40004612
Defiler | 36976791

Okay.. so lets break it down.
TDx1 difference: (Positive is better)
Warlock -10% * Lost a few Truespirit legacies, and we can call this margin of error. Almost nothing changed on this toon.
Illy -5% * Mimicry did a bit less which would account for most of it. We can call this minimal, but I think with some profile changes this will end up a net positive.
Swash 13% * No surprise here, fervor and reset.
Brigand 18% * No surprise here, fervor and reset.
Coercer -21% * Much worse mimicry the second time. Lost 7% of his parse over this. So it's really -14%. Nothing jumps out on ACT, will need to look more. Quite possibly a profile update required.
Troubador 13% * No surprise here, fervor and reset.
Guardian 5% * Not as high as I expected with the fervor proc. ACT just shows everything did a "bit" more.
Dirge 1% * This is actually a pretty big surprise. But looking at his parse, almost all of his damage is proc's. So the gain wasn't real big. I also think a profile update is required here.
Fury 3% * This is likely margin of error. I'm surprised his parse didn't go down from random resets and healing extra. He's set very high on healing.
Mystic 2% * This is likely margin of error. I'm surprised his parse didn't go down from random resets and healing extra. He's set very high on healing.
Defiler -9% * This is more what I expected from all the priests. My MT group has most of their heals etc set as [ID], so they will spam them as much as they can. Profile update required for sure.
Templar -21% * This is more what I expected from all the priests. My MT group has most of their heals etc set as [ID], so they will spam them as much as they can. Profile update required for sure.

TDx8:
Warlock -1% * This is more of what I expected. Basically no change since his items basically didn't change.
Swash 17% * No surprise.
Illy -4% * Mimicry did 16m DPS less the second time. Same response as the tdx1.
Brigand 24% * No surprise.
Coe -10% * Mimicry did 16m DPS less the second time. After seeing the loss from TDx1, this was expected. Some more investigation/profile updates definitely required.
Guard 10% * This is more like it! Get em tiger.
Troubador 12% * No surprise.
Dirge 10% * This is more expected than what happened on TDx1.
Mystic -2% * Same answer as TDx1
Fury 2% Same answer as TDx1
Templar 3% * No idea why his parse didn't go down... but most of his damage is based on auto's and procs. So quite possible the TDx1 parse is a one off.
Defiler -4% * Surprised it didn't go down more here also.

Some thoughts:
I forgot to check [x] Force Named CA (but I forgot on all 4 tests). So there were no VC's and some other things in there. Whatever, it was a comparison test anyways.
The priests all being very close to the same on the TDx8 fight is likely from AE auto attack. They all have 100% and most of their damage comes from auto's + procs. So it would make sense it would be more difficult to notice a change on a tdx8 vs a tdx1 where the abilities make up more of it.

Overall, I'm quite happy with everything overall. A few toons I need to sit down and have a look at (Coercer, I'm looking at you).

by **Eyedea** » 01 Nov 2016, 10:48

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